Pelican gets brutalized by the Village Voice Pages in Thread: 5     Current Page: 1 Jump to Page: FIRST   << PREVIOUS     NEXT >>   LAST Lumpy ( Community Supporter ) 5,658 posts since 6/16/2007 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 7:25:53 AM Wow, maybe the most negative article I've ever (?) read about any band, certainly more negative than anything in recent memory that's not just a blog review. I think the review goes overboard. To be fair, the Voice has always had some horrible music writing, and they have always jizzed over plenty of horrid bands. There is a lot of different people writing for the Voice, and the music section is a mixed bag. So anybody who wants to say that the Village Voice blows, can certainly make that point. I'm not personally a big Pelican fan but they are a quality band and I would never totally dismiss them. Pelican is certainly better than a lot of the bands the Voice promotes. Also getting dissed in this article (although he focuses on Pelican the most): Baroness, Isis and Mastodon. I really dislike overly intellectual rock criticism ("When Eric Burden walked onto the Montreaux stage in leather pants, it signaled a paradigm shift in the counter-culture" - I'm paraphrasing a real sentence BTW) because it's usually about glorifying the writer, and not about the music. And in this case it's being used destructively. It's so harsh I hesitate to link to the article, but we're here to talk about heavy music, so... URL: http://www.villagevoice.com/2009-11-24/music/pelican-s-sketchy-metal/ Edited 0 Times Rock & Roll is background music for teenagers to fuck to.   Lumpy ( Community Supporter ) 5,658 posts since 6/16/2007 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 7:33:55 AM I also don't grasp the comparison to Trans Am that the reviewer attempts to make. I don't see the major musical connection there (which he uses to rip on Pelican) and I would also consider those two bands contemporaries, chronologically. But I'm not a big Trans Am fan, either. Edited 1 Times Rock & Roll is background music for teenagers to fuck to.   c.troutman ( Regular Member ) 11,465 posts since 4/10/2001 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 7:41:35 AM wait..Pelican is metal now? Edited 0 Times http://subjectiveheaviness.blogspot.com/   Mazrim ( Regular Member ) 15,543 posts since 7/4/2002 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 7:42:29 AM Actually, I think its very well written and reflects almost perfectly what I feel about many bands in this scene. Edited 0 Times Needles to say... you took drugs.   jumzikal ( Community Supporter ) 5,413 posts since 4/11/2001 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 7:48:31 AM I second Maz ~.~ Edited 0 Times and thats the devil in a big crystal spaceship....   tossom ( Community Supporter ) 1,469 posts since 1/24/2005 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 7:49:11 AM The article is more about the writer than actual music, over worded I think. "The same goes doubly for Florida's Torche, which often sounds like Looney Tunes composer Carl Stallings tearing through Helmet's late oeuvre in double-time." A worse simile he could not have fathomed methinks. Having seen Pelican live though, I must admit I agree on certain points. They were incredibly disappointing, and really boring - lacked the musicianship required for instrumental music to hold my attention. Edited 1 Times Pearl Jam wants to rock you, responsibly. Josh 08   chest rockwell ( Regular Member ) 11,964 posts since 10/15/2001 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 8:01:01 AM i think he's trying too hard to be clever (he uses 'trope' twice), but yeah I kinda agree with him. Edited 0 Times   MadJohnShaft ( Community Supporter ) 42,479 posts since 7/29/2000 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 8:02:04 AM Hipster schlock - that gave me a headache Edited 0 Times BAN THE STONER ROCK FACEBOOK TRAITORS   Bitter&Twisted ( Community Supporter ) 13,750 posts since 4/7/2002 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 8:09:57 AM That article smacks of a freelance journo not getting enough commissions, so he's trying to stir up a bit of controversy to raise his profile. Fuck him! I first saw Pelican at Emish in 2003 and they stopped me in my tracks. I hadn't heard of them so hadn't heard a note of their music before and I thought they were incredibly accomplished and confident, considering how young they were. Got all fan-girl on their arses and they seemed bemused by the praise. For that reason alone they occupy a special place in my heart and always will, regardless of what they do now or in the future. Edited 0 Times   c.troutman ( Regular Member ) 11,465 posts since 4/10/2001 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 8:12:04 AM yeah, he's making an attempt to discredit the hipster scene..and does so pretty successfully. Calling them 'metal' and throwing bands like Torche into the mix is offbase. Torche do what they do, no false pretenses...and I realize they are not for everyone, but cannot deny their live show. Pelican on the other hand... Edited 0 Times http://subjectiveheaviness.blogspot.com/   Lumpy ( Community Supporter ) 5,658 posts since 6/16/2007 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 8:13:30 AM The writer even knows what Pelican is thinking... he accuses them of being 'insincere'. Also, I don't understand how The Gates of Slumber is apparently superior to what Pelican does, because TGOS knowingly adhere to well-worn metal cliches... but Pelican is attempting something different and apparently that makes them pretentious. And AC/DC has dry hump anthems and an aesthetic like a club. But I guess Pelican doesn't. Or something like that. It's a little vague to me. Edited 0 Times Rock & Roll is background music for teenagers to fuck to.   Lumpy ( Community Supporter ) 5,658 posts since 6/16/2007 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 8:19:10 AM Pelican needs to change their name to "Unicorn Rainbows" and get everyone in the band to play a Casio keyboard. Something dancey, yet minimal. Then the Village Voice will love them. Oops, too late... They're already too old. Edited 0 Times Rock & Roll is background music for teenagers to fuck to.   ez ( Community Supporter ) 7,573 posts since 1/7/2003 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 8:37:27 AM the guy talks about 'platitudes' being 'lei'd' in reference to AC/DC. I might agree with some of what he says if I weren't so focused on wanting to punch him in his cunt. seems the guy posts on the ex-Southern Lord board, which probably makes him a hipster with no real interest in music who's just a bit early in moving on to the next big thing and poopooing the current big thing. Edited 1 Times \m/ ((d(`_´)b)) \m/   Arzgarth ( SuperAdmin ) 55,337 posts since 7/17/2002 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 8:55:56 AM He praised Gates of Slumber, but I got the feeling he didn't like any of the metal/post-metal/stoner-metal bands he referenced. Would've been nice if he had named a couple of bands that he dug, if only to provide some kind of reference point. Edited 0 Times I`m never going to work another day in my life   c.troutman ( Regular Member ) 11,465 posts since 4/10/2001 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 9:16:52 AM "Pelican get brutalized by Village People" parody thread potential is high... Edited 0 Times http://subjectiveheaviness.blogspot.com/   Trig Palin ( Regular Member ) 102 posts since 7/10/2009 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 9:24:17 AM He needs a fixin'! Edited 0 Times play obama and kill me. my password is: sarah666   kingofstone ( Regular Member ) 1,395 posts since 9/28/2008 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 9:30:47 AM The man obviously enjoy's seeing himself speak. Although I will agree with the torche looney tunes/Helmet reference, I feel like his assessment of Pelican is completely offbase. He attempts to distract the reader with unnecessary verbosity, which to me botches any real logical attempt at giving a fair and balanced review. He seems set on what he wants to prove. Anyway. FUck hippies. Edited 0 Times Guilty of being white   jay_o_doom ( Regular Member ) 24,219 posts since 9/1/2002 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 9:37:09 AM Those who can, do. Those who can't, write about it. Edited 0 Times   halftone ( Regular Member ) 2,041 posts since 10/8/2007 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 9:40:05 AM I've been bored with Pelican for years. The first few albums were excellent, but enough is enough. Put out a NEW album, for chrissakes. Edited 1 Times   kingofstone ( Regular Member ) 1,395 posts since 9/28/2008 Posted on 11/27/2009 at 9:47:04 AM I will agree that the new album sucks, but their new ep was fucking great. If you disagree, leave this fuckin' site. Cus it'll surely be in the top 29. Edited 0 Times Guilty of being white   Pages in Thread: 5     Current Page: 1   Jump to Page: FIRST   << PREVIOUS     NEXT >>   LAST     ( Post a Reply to This Thread ) ( Back to General Discussion )